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Female Elf Mage.
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I'm back in the game after getting a case of DA overload when it came out. I left my female human godknight enchanter after the ball and Adamant. Past few days I've been doing some areas I didn't touch at all or barely touched in my first playthrough, particularly Hissing Wastes and Emprise du Lion. Also doing companion stuff and some other things I missed.
Since I last played I think they added storage in your undercroft (sorely needed and a godsend, should have been in at launch) and armor tinting. The armor tinting is nice so you don't have to deal with your ugly turquoise and plaidweave monstrosity you found that has amazing stats. Same process as crafting.
Blackwall is still a massive bore, but Varric and Dorian have good banter with him. But they have good banter with anyone.
I think I'm already about 10 hours past my first playthough. At about this point on my first time I just rushed through the main story.
Knight enchanter still ridiculously OP.
Whenever I'm done with this and come back for a third at some point in the future, I want to see about a DPS-focused sword and shield build.
Since I last played I think they added storage in your undercroft (sorely needed and a godsend, should have been in at launch) and armor tinting. The armor tinting is nice so you don't have to deal with your ugly turquoise and plaidweave monstrosity you found that has amazing stats. Same process as crafting.
Blackwall is still a massive bore, but Varric and Dorian have good banter with him. But they have good banter with anyone.
I think I'm already about 10 hours past my first playthough. At about this point on my first time I just rushed through the main story.
Knight enchanter still ridiculously OP.
Whenever I'm done with this and come back for a third at some point in the future, I want to see about a DPS-focused sword and shield build.
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I'm almost done with my mage run. I went into the highland ravager fight with 80 percent fire resist. Crafting and Knight Enchanter is ridiculous. I saw a mod that removes weapon restrictions so I might play with that when I'm done and see how OP a KE is with a greatsword equipped.
I can see myself taking it slow through a third playthrough, but I'd need to look up non-annoying sword and shield builds. When I've controlled Cassandra and Blackwall it hasn't been as interesting as rogue or mage. I supposed I could settle for two-hander if I had to. If not I'd just try archery.
I can see myself taking it slow through a third playthrough, but I'd need to look up non-annoying sword and shield builds. When I've controlled Cassandra and Blackwall it hasn't been as interesting as rogue or mage. I supposed I could settle for two-hander if I had to. If not I'd just try archery.
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My playthrough was pretty completionist. I will say, unfortunately there's not a whole lot to see out of the main story/companion quests. Hunting all the dragons is kind of fun--especially since if you bring certain companions with you it can unlock cutscenes/dialogue options. I want to play it again. Might wait for the expansion they're working on.
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Yur. I rushed through my first one so I had a lot of extra I hadn't seen. I did more this time, level 24 versus level 18, killed all the dragons after only killing two or so the first time.
I think there is some interesting content outside of the main quest and storyline but it's surrounded by a bunch of extra which makes it rough on completionists. Some of the extras (like the astariums) are cool. Stuff like the shards can die in a car fire. Game could be waaaay tighter.
All in all my favorite DA game though.
Random things:
-More puzzles. The little floor panels in the temple and the astariums and all that are fun and break up the combat.
-Pick a lane on the combat. Don't make me hold a button for what's essentially an auto attack. Also just let us zoom out. Also limiting active skills is OK but 8 is like 2 or 3 fewer than optimal. Also tactical camera etc.
-I really like the way the armor system and the slots worked. They should keep it but add more variations.
-I found a bunch of banners and thrones but never found an extra bed and I only had two window types. I guess I can google it.
-I had never done Exalted Plains and it had some awkward platforming to get to some shards. Their jumping was not designed for this.
-Dorian is the best.
-I like the idea of the power system but not tying it to random shit.
-All the advisers would be better companions than Blackwall, Cole and Sera.
-I like emulating Thanduil and being a mooselord but the mounts are super awkward.
I think there is some interesting content outside of the main quest and storyline but it's surrounded by a bunch of extra which makes it rough on completionists. Some of the extras (like the astariums) are cool. Stuff like the shards can die in a car fire. Game could be waaaay tighter.
All in all my favorite DA game though.
Random things:
-More puzzles. The little floor panels in the temple and the astariums and all that are fun and break up the combat.
-Pick a lane on the combat. Don't make me hold a button for what's essentially an auto attack. Also just let us zoom out. Also limiting active skills is OK but 8 is like 2 or 3 fewer than optimal. Also tactical camera etc.
-I really like the way the armor system and the slots worked. They should keep it but add more variations.
-I found a bunch of banners and thrones but never found an extra bed and I only had two window types. I guess I can google it.
-I had never done Exalted Plains and it had some awkward platforming to get to some shards. Their jumping was not designed for this.
-Dorian is the best.
-I like the idea of the power system but not tying it to random shit.
-All the advisers would be better companions than Blackwall, Cole and Sera.
-I like emulating Thanduil and being a mooselord but the mounts are super awkward.
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Agree with all of that. I think this hot take has been expressed earlier in this thread, but going forward, I'd like to see Bioware recognize what they're good at. They create cool worlds with cool lore (one thing Dragon Age Inquisition, and Dragon Age 2 to a certain extent, don't get enough credit for: they turned the bland genre paperback fantasy world of Origins and made it interesting, pretty, and sometimes even smart) and great characters that have arcs your actually invested in. I don't remember ever really caring about that Bad Guy We Had to Stop From Destroying the World. I forgot his name already. Basically it's like you play the main story (I am the Chosen One, thrust into Incredible Situation, guess I have to save the world now) to unlock the next part of your companions story.
I hope--especially in the new Mass Effect game coming out--that the plot is more character driven. I'd like to see you and your companions personal arc be the major drivers of the plot. This is why I like Dragon Age 2. Yeah sure, it was clearly rushed, bland, and the combat was a mess, but it was also a Rags to Riches tale, this was the story of a group of people and of a city and its politics over the course of like ten years, and this was new and fun to me. I think Mass Effect 2 is their most effective game for the same reason--sure, you're saving the world--but most of the game is basically a Getting the Gang Together montage. The best part of any heist movie is when all the thieves are being recruited.
I hope Bioware releases some big expansions for Inquisition. They have a huge world they could dump some story into. I'd pay.
I hope--especially in the new Mass Effect game coming out--that the plot is more character driven. I'd like to see you and your companions personal arc be the major drivers of the plot. This is why I like Dragon Age 2. Yeah sure, it was clearly rushed, bland, and the combat was a mess, but it was also a Rags to Riches tale, this was the story of a group of people and of a city and its politics over the course of like ten years, and this was new and fun to me. I think Mass Effect 2 is their most effective game for the same reason--sure, you're saving the world--but most of the game is basically a Getting the Gang Together montage. The best part of any heist movie is when all the thieves are being recruited.
I hope Bioware releases some big expansions for Inquisition. They have a huge world they could dump some story into. I'd pay.
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Sadly I think BioWare wants to distance itself as much as it can from DA2 other than building on the events. Yeah we've definitely talked about this.
I like some of the stuff they did with characters in DA:I. Dorian is god-tier. I thought I would just like him for his mustache but he's one of the best characters they've ever created. Even boring Cullen basically had a drug addict side plot that elevated him from forgettable auxiliary character with an inexplicably rabid fantasy to somebody with a personality.
It's weird that Corypheus had so much focus but he has less depth than pretty much anybody with more than a handful of lines. He's less developed than Krem who is barely more than a supporting character for a boring ass companion. I don't think they put much thought into it. I think they just looked for a big bad.
I like some of the stuff they did with characters in DA:I. Dorian is god-tier. I thought I would just like him for his mustache but he's one of the best characters they've ever created. Even boring Cullen basically had a drug addict side plot that elevated him from forgettable auxiliary character with an inexplicably rabid fantasy to somebody with a personality.
It's weird that Corypheus had so much focus but he has less depth than pretty much anybody with more than a handful of lines. He's less developed than Krem who is barely more than a supporting character for a boring ass companion. I don't think they put much thought into it. I think they just looked for a big bad.
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I like that in order to understand what's going on with Corypheus you had to have played the like second or third expansion to Dragon Age 2, a game apparently everyone hated and that they're trying to distance themselves from. He's shit and belongs in a JRPG.
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I didn't play all the DA2 DLC but having played the first two games I felt like I was hanging on by a thread sometimes. I can't imagine how it was for people new to the series. I guess that's what the keep is for (and the little movie you can craft is pretty cool) but still.
Make DA4 a buddy comedy with Varric and Dorian.
Make DA4 a buddy comedy with Varric and Dorian.
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Yes they did a terrible job explaining Corphyus and his relations to the Grey Wardens and whatever was going on with Red Lyrum.badfo wrote:I didn't play all the DA2 DLC but having played the first two games I felt like I was hanging on by a thread sometimes. I can't imagine how it was for people new to the series. I guess that's what the keep is for (and the little movie you can craft is pretty cool) but still.
Make DA4 a buddy comedy with Varric and Dorian.
Yes to buddy comedy. Please. I'm dying for Bioware to make a game about like a clan of honorable (or not honorable, player choice) thieves. How about space pirates in next mass effect?
This is what I'm excited for about Witcher 3. There's a lot of political/world stuff going on, but the main story is basically Geralt looking for an old girlfriend
I remember liking Fall Out New Vegas's plot for similar reasons.. I'm not saying it's a great game. But its simple 'you're just a guy in the wasteland who got shot in the face and now can go get revenge if he wants" plot device was fun. I want the stakes to be lowered in video games, I guess. I don't want to save the world. I just want to get cash money.
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I am so fucking tired of being the Chosen One. I'm really hoping for ME4, they scale down the story. Make the protagonist a detective or a smuggler or something and just have his/her story be a lens into how all the different races are doing post-ME3 ending. That's really all I want to see.fallenchicken wrote:I remember liking Fall Out New Vegas's plot for similar reasons.. I'm not saying it's a great game. But its simple 'you're just a guy in the wasteland who got shot in the face and now can go get revenge if he wants" plot device was fun. I want the stakes to be lowered in video games, I guess. I don't want to save the world. I just want to get cash money.
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Pewps wrote:I am so fucking tired of being the Chosen One. I'm really hoping for ME4, they scale down the story. Make the protagonist a detective or a smuggler or something and just have his/her story be a lens into how all the different races are doing post-ME3 ending. That's really all I want to see.fallenchicken wrote:I remember liking Fall Out New Vegas's plot for similar reasons.. I'm not saying it's a great game. But its simple 'you're just a guy in the wasteland who got shot in the face and now can go get revenge if he wants" plot device was fun. I want the stakes to be lowered in video games, I guess. I don't want to save the world. I just want to get cash money.
At best they will start that way and then turn into space Jesus.
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Turns out your the secret lovechild of Shepard and Master chief. And only you can stop The Reaper's Reapers.
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I did play the da2 dlcs and corpheus' is really good. Lots of Hawke background development and. Mystery surrounding g corpys nature. It's worth playing.
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Really the only DLC worth playing. I played that Assassin one on my last playthrough and it was garbo. Like they're actually going to try and portray Felicia-insert as a good person. Everyone on the list she's trying to steal back should be hanged, drawn and quartered for being a traitor to Western values. "BUT DUH CHILJUNS" I hope they die too for being complacent in their parents wrongdoings.isgrelindisguise wrote:I did play the da2 dlcs and corpheus' is really good. Lots of Hawke background development and. Mystery surrounding g corpys nature. It's worth playing.
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Oh god I forgot about Felicia Day's crap. That stuff happened.
I feel a DA companion tier list coming on.
I feel a DA companion tier list coming on.
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I will bet money that she returns in either one of the DA:I DLC's or in the next DA game. They'll probably get Wil Wheaton, too. That would give me such a rage boner.badfo wrote:Oh god I forgot about Felicia Day's crap. That stuff happened.
I feel a DA companion tier list coming on.
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Wheaton fandom is one of the worst things about the internet.
At least there won't be another Felicia Day live action DA series. Right? Pewps please tell me I'm right.
At least there won't be another Felicia Day live action DA series. Right? Pewps please tell me I'm right.
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I don't understand how he has a fandom. The apex of his career is getting lit up in Toy Soldiers. How do you get a fandom from that?badfo wrote:Wheaton fandom is one of the worst things about the internet.
At least there won't be another Felicia Day live action DA series. Right? Pewps please tell me I'm right.
I get the feeling they wouldn't do another live action thing and she'd end up being some "surprise" character that no one really wants
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oh that live action thing.....Didn't it start with the line, "Struggle is an illusion" or something? No it's not. That's not profound. That's just not true.
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I'd wade into BioWare boards to find out if people like Felicia Day but BioWare's forum is also one of the worst things about the internet. Also I feel like I can safely say they love Felicia Day and Wheaton too because OMG GAMER CULTURE GUYS SEEE.Pewps wrote:
I don't understand how he has a fandom. The apex of his career is getting lit up in Toy Soldiers. How do you get a fandom from that?
I get the feeling they wouldn't do another live action thing and she'd end up being some "surprise" character that no one really wants
I don't remember, but I didn't really watch it beyond the first few minutes or so. It just seemed really silly.fallenchicken wrote:oh that live action thing.....Didn't it start with the line, "Struggle is an illusion" or something? No it's not. That's not profound. That's just not true.
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Oh I forgot one thing.
I like in DA:I where your dialogue wheel would pop up while you were walking and you could continue the dialogue / make the choice or whatever while you are running around heading somewhere instead of starting a cutscene. It mostly happened during companion banter. This should be something that's expanded in ME4 and whatever their new IP is. Sometimes you don't need a full cutscene, especially out in the world.
I imagine in ME4 there will be plenty of time to expand on the mission while you are actually moving and controlling your character instead of sitting through a five minute cutscene that inevitably lingers on somebody's ass.
I like in DA:I where your dialogue wheel would pop up while you were walking and you could continue the dialogue / make the choice or whatever while you are running around heading somewhere instead of starting a cutscene. It mostly happened during companion banter. This should be something that's expanded in ME4 and whatever their new IP is. Sometimes you don't need a full cutscene, especially out in the world.
I imagine in ME4 there will be plenty of time to expand on the mission while you are actually moving and controlling your character instead of sitting through a five minute cutscene that inevitably lingers on somebody's ass.
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I honestly thought I was going to hate Dorian. I have no idea where I got that feeling from, or developed the impression that he was going to be a terrible cliche or something. But he is pretty great I gotta say.badfo wrote:I like some of the stuff they did with characters in DA:I. Dorian is god-tier. I thought I would just like him for his mustache but he's one of the best characters they've ever created. Even boring Cullen basically had a drug addict side plot that elevated him from forgettable auxiliary character with an inexplicably rabid fantasy to somebody with a personality.
I don't think I'm ever going to complete this game however
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Just power through the missions and ignore everything else. AT LEAST finish the campaign.Darth Snuggles wrote:I honestly thought I was going to hate Dorian. I have no idea where I got that feeling from, or developed the impression that he was going to be a terrible cliche or something. But he is pretty great I gotta say.badfo wrote:I like some of the stuff they did with characters in DA:I. Dorian is god-tier. I thought I would just like him for his mustache but he's one of the best characters they've ever created. Even boring Cullen basically had a drug addict side plot that elevated him from forgettable auxiliary character with an inexplicably rabid fantasy to somebody with a personality.
I don't think I'm ever going to complete this game however
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That would be my advice, too. It's too easy to feel compelled to do all the extra crap. You might miss some stuff but you'll probably feel better about a shorter playthrough.
And yeah Dorian's a boss.
And yeah Dorian's a boss.