I'm watching later tonight if anyone wants to join me. Melbourne central, 9:20 session.
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Re: Happy Star Wars Day
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:35 am
by fallenchicken
I saw it. Liked it very much.
Re: Happy Star Wars Day
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:57 pm
by badfo
I really liked it.
The one dumb part was Leia pulling herself to the ship. That was prettttttttty dumb.
I think it was one of the strongest thematic films in the series. Heroes will fail you, saviors aren't everything. Hope and people and all that.
I loved their depiction of Luke. I loved that Kylo killed Snoke but not as a way to redeem himself but to take control.
Alien stuff was top notch. Porgs were great. Lots of great aliens in casinoland.
Re: Happy Star Wars Day
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:31 pm
by pano
I liked it. I'm conflicted about it.
Okay, I think this is visually the best Star Wars film ever. The hyperspace kamikaze is the best imagery in a star wars film ever. In a packed cinema the moment of silence was intense. Really fucking cool. Also crystal planet was amazo. Thank god for that one guy letting us know it was salt, not snow, and therefore this was a different battle from Hoth.
Nostalgia-wise, this film had two moments that I almost couldn't stand (from happiness). Puppet Yoda returning, with a sense of humour. This scene overall was great; that puppet is adorable and still has chemistry with Luke. Yoda's writing/dialogue in this scene was perfect.
The second moment was Luke again reuniting with R2, and R2 playing the original hologram. I dunno why but I felt like crying.
Ben (I prefer calling him Ben cos Kylo is a derp name) is the best acted and written character in these films. Props Driver. Loved your Sith-spanks too. "Oh hey Rey I was just working out."
Stuff I didn't like mostly originates from the Leia stuff. I truly think she should've stayed dead after being blown into space (would've avoided space flying which was dumb yep). Now it feels weird to introduce Jurassic Park and then kill her, meaning Leia presumably gets an offscreen death prior to Ep9. Especially since Jurassic Park would've been such a perfect stand-in for the Leia archetype. And then they could've given Ackbar the honour of hyperspacing into Snoke's ship, instead of being killed in the background and never mentioned again.
I also think Finn's plot was pretty poor. Like, it barely made sense and ended up getting almost the entire Resistance killed. I realise the theme is heroes failing, but I think this could've been done better. I think they should've had a traitor on board sending a signal or something. The tracking thing was weird. Like they were tracking from Snoke's ship but Snoke didn't know until Hux told him? I dunno, the setup felt poorly thought out and the execution was sub-par. I wasn't into Rose either. Finn should've romanced Benicio.
Force broom kid at the end was OP. Can't wait for him to kill Ben in Ep9. Green milk titty monster was fabulous. Porgs were top tier. Crystal foxes were top tier. The nuns were funny.
I wanted more dudes-in-rubber-masks aliens. I'm sad Luke died.
I have many thoughts. :[
Re: Happy Star Wars Day
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:03 pm
by fallenchicken
luke milking that animal and then disgustingly drinking it and spilling it all over his beard while leering at Rey was OP. Mark Hamil is a treasure. I loved most of the movie tbh. It is the second best movie in the entire series. Agreed that Ben is the strongest character and I loved that he killed Snoke to become the big bad. He's now gone further than Anakin ever did.
The Leia Superman was bad.
The movie was so gorgeous visually.
I agree that Finn was just given busy work this movie, his storyline mostly worked for me. I really liked Rose and like bado said, thematically, their adventure on the casino planet worked really well.
Do you think Benicio insisted on doing the stutter? They told him he didn't have to do it and he was like, "No, the stutter is golden."
Focusing a lot of the movie on Oscar Issac was a good idea.
Re: Happy Star Wars Day
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:24 pm
by isgrelindisguise
I don't understand how the first order and resistance operate as political organizations.
Re: Happy Star Wars Day
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:36 am
by fallenchicken
isgrelindisguise wrote:
I don't understand how the first order and resistance operate as political organizations.
That's an easy one. The First Order: The American Empire
Rebels: Isis
Re: Happy Star Wars Day
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:03 am
by pano
fallenchicken wrote:
isgrelindisguise wrote:
I don't understand how the first order and resistance operate as political organizations.
That's an easy one. The First Order: The American Empire
Rebels: Isis
Yeah I'm a little iffy on this as well. It's like they just renamed the Rebels and the Empire and sort of just wanted everyone to go with it, even though it kind of makes the struggles of the OT feel a bit moot.
These new movies have been terrible at giving any sense of scale. Like, I don't know if the First Order is like, maybe a few dozen ships more than we've seen or if they're as big as the old Empire? Because the Resistance is clearly like 200 dudes down to about 6 by the end of this movie.
I wish these ones were as good as at world building as the prequels. They felt BIG at least.
Re: Happy Star Wars Day
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:39 am
by Pewps
I'm gonna be really disappointed if the trilogy ends without Ben getting a redemption arc